Environmental researcher:It would be best for theatre makers to experience their traditional spaces as multi-species environments. Theatres can be landscapes, just like forests.
Director:
I’m glad that we don’t have to leave the theatres to head for the woods. That it is right here, in this place, that we can learn how to break through a fourth, fifth, or sixth wall.
The Messingkauf Dialogues are the heart of Brecht’s drama theory. They offer instructions for the creation of scientific theatre and reflections on the histrionics of fascism. Brecht believed that quantum physics could unhinge bourgeois theatre. Kicking out witches, animals and ghosts were a matter of course here.
The queer-feminist quantum physicist Karen Barad has proposed to remove, along with the fourth wall, the dimension of time altogether. Her space-time materializations are perforated by Walter Benjamin’s Jetztzeit (Now-Time), which rejected progress and the atomic clock. But what can we do with the Messing material that Brecht was ready to take to the scrap dealer to have new instruments built?
And where does this stench come from? Is that meat juice from the staff canteen or is it the imperceptible hyper-object? And what about the one or two kilos of microbes that each of us carries around, which are also at risk of extinction? The real drama might be taking place between out gut walls, and nobody wants a perforation here!