Among the refugees are Julia and Aleksandra. The two women, aged 20 and 21, have come to Berlin from Minsk. They can stay with acquaintances here and don't have to stay at the arrival center. "People are sitting in the basements in Kiev," the two reported. "It's a big disaster." Right with the start of the war, they said, they set out by train. Instead of the usual nine hours or so, they said, it took them about 20 hours to travel one of the routes. "Many of our acquaintances want to get away from Ukraine, but they have no chance." Now they are hoping for support in Germany. "The important thing is to be safe for now." Should it be safe again in Ukraine, they wanted to return.